My Appleby Related Families Herman Joseph Abrams-[1304]

Herman Joseph Abrams-[1304]
(1917-1997)

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Herman Joseph Abrams-[1304] ¹ ² ³ ⁴

Born: 9 Nov 1917, Big Rapids, Mecosta, Michigan, U.S.A. ⁵ ⁶ ⁷ ⁸ ⁹
Died: 27 Sep 1997, Inglewood, Los Angeles Co., California, U.S.A. at age 79 ⁹

General Notes:

He was born Herman Joseph Abrams and his name was changed to Herbert Murry Mandel when he was a child in Michigan (according to Herbert). His father started with some carts, selling thread, buttons and shoe laces. Later he had a store there. After that the family moved to Blytheville, Arkansas. His father had a store there with a partner. The partner got him into trouble with the law and his father was left with the rap for embezzlement and served some prison time.

Birth Notes:

He is now age 78. He confirmed that he was born 9 Nov 1917 in Big Rapids, Michigan. (telephone conversation 25 Sep 1996 with Herbert).

Death Notes:

Remington Dene Mandel called 28 Sep 1997 and told me Herbert had died. They found him at home and were told he had been dead a couple of days.

Noted events in his life were:

1. Census, 2 Apr 1930, Corona, Riverside Co., California, U.S.A. ¹⁰

2. Occupation: clothing store worker, From 1946 to 1952, Artesia, Los Angeles, California. ¹¹ Worked for Lester in his clothing store.

3. Residence: at 1010 Main St., 2 Apr 1930, Corona, Riverside Co., California, U.S.A. ¹⁰

4. Residence: at the time of his death, Bef 27 Sep 1997, Inglewood, Los Angeles Co., California, U.S.A. ⁹

5. Military, From 1941 to 1946, New Guinea. ¹² Herbert spent 26 years in the U.S. Army. He was in the Army from 1941 to 1946 and again from 1952 to 1973. He served in foreign countries of New Guinea during WW II, Korea, Viet Nam and Panama. When he was first in the Army he rose to the rank of 1st Sergeant in New Guinea in 1944.

6. Military, From 1952 to 1973, Korea, Viet Nam And Panama. ¹³ In 1952 he was a "PFC-1stSgt" and the Inspector-General thought that was inappropriate so he was promoted to 1st Sergeant again.

Herbert was on his second period of service in the Army and was stationed in Texas when his mother died. Lester’s wife Martha wrote a letter to the Red Cross while Herbert was in Korea saying his mother was dying, so the Army gave him emergency leave.

Herbert said the Army would not send him back to Korea after his emergency leave to see his dying mother, so they sent him to Texas. He was assigned to work with a Boy Scout Camp and then he volunteered to go to Viet Nam.

7. Name Change: Herbert Murry Mandel, Abt 1923. ¹⁴ Herbert thinks he began school as Herbert M. Mandel, but said his name at birth was Herman Joseph Abrams.

1 Leslie Ann Harris, 13 May 1996, Telephone conversation (Don E. Appleby, 13 May 1996). Surety: 3

2 Remington Dene MANDEL, Letter dated 11 Jul 1996 from Remington Dene Mandel (Don E Appleby 13 Jul 1996). Surety: 3

3 Cyndy Mandel, E-mail from Cyndy Mandel to Don Appleby (CompuServe), Cyndy Mandell says Herbert goes by Mandel. Surety: 3

4 Don E. Appleby, Transcription of telephone conversation with Herbert Mandel, formerly Herman Abrams, on Wednesday, September 25, 1996, by Don E. Appleby, later corrected and elaborated on with Don at his home on 13 Oct 1996.
, Herbert clears up issue of his change of name. Surety: 3

5 Pedigree and data sheet of Mandel family and prepared by someone in the Mandel family and mailed from Northridge at the request of Leslie Ann Harris. (Received by mail on 6-7-96). Surety: 3

7 Don E. Appleby, Transcription of telephone conversation with Herbert Mandel, formerly Herman Abrams, on Wednesday, September 25, 1996, by Don E. Appleby, later corrected and elaborated on with Don at his home on 13 Oct 1996.
, Herbert confirmed date and place of birth. Surety: 3

8 Cyndy Mandell, Photocopy of chart of descendants of Casper Abrams & Frances received from Cyndy Mandell 21 Oct 1996 (Cyndy Mandell 19 Oct 1996). Surety: 3

9 Mandel, Herbert Murray aka Abrams, Herman Joseph, no. (private), <i>Social Security Death Benefits Index</i> of the U.S. Social Security Administration ID: 729. Surety: 2

10 Albert Mandel, 1930 U.S., Corona, Riverside Co., California, ED 33-76 SD 20 1010 21 29 ; National Archives photo received from Cynda Mandell 21 Jul 2003. ID: 536, Ancestry.com. Surety: 3

11 Don E. Appleby, Transcription of telephone conversation with Herbert Mandel, formerly Herman Abrams, on Wednesday, September 25, 1996, by Don E. Appleby, later corrected and elaborated on with Don at his home on 13 Oct 1996.
. Surety: 3

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