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Thomas Henry Groves-[2561]
(1794-1857)
Elizabeth (Unknown)-[2562]
(1799-)
Matthew Matthias Groves-[2663]
(Abt 1832-)
Mary Ann Rock-[1242]
(1827-)

Philip Groves-[6]
(1864-After 1912)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Agnes Louisa Short-[7]

Philip Groves-[6] 1

  • Born: 5 Nov 1864, Water Oakley, Bray, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 3
  • Marriage: Agnes Louisa Short-[7] before 1887
  • Died: After 1912 4
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bullet  General Notes:

JR's records show the name as Phillip Matthew GROVES and mine Philip Arthur GROVES. The source for Philip Arthur GROVES is Grama's birth certificate so I used that until I received a birth certificate showing just Philip Groves..
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The 1881 census lists a Phillip GROVES, age 16, son of Mathew GROVES.
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"Incidentally, Philip Groves, who you have listed as from Sloright,
Bucks, England, was, I am sure from Slough, which is near Windsor. I have
never heard of a place called Sloright!"
From Letter dated 18 Dec 1995 from Peter Talbot-Ashby.
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bullet  Birth Notes:

Name is spelled Philip on his birth certificate. No middle name is shown.

bullet  Death Notes:

One source indicated Philip Groves hung himself. Estimate of year is based on residence in 1911 from marriage certificate of daughter Amy.

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

1. Census, 1881, Clewer, Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 5 6 As Phillip GROVES, age 16, unmarried male, occupation was errand boy, born in Bray, Berkshire, son as related to Mathew GROVES, head of household.

2. Occupation: Errand Boy, 1881, Clewer, Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2

3. Occupation: a gardener for his own account, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 7

4. Residence, 28 Oct 1911, Slough, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom. 8
Marriage certificate for Harry APPLEBY and Amy Agnes GROVES shows Phillip Groves of Slough, Bucks, England.

5. Residence: 10. Grove Place, New Windsor, Berks., England, May 1887, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 9 10

6. Residence: 10 Clarence Cr+, 1881, Clewer, Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2

7. Residence: at the time of the 1901 census at No. 1 Love Lane, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 7


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Philip married Agnes Louisa Short-[7] [MRIN: 4], daughter of George William Short-[1234] and Louisa Maria Gardiner-[1235], before 1887. (Agnes Louisa Short-[7] was born on 1 Sep 1865 in Spital Road, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 11 12 13.)

bullet  Noted events in their marriage were:

1. Residence: at the fime of the 1901 census, 1891, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 14

2. Census, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 7

3. Census, 1891, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 10


bullet  Marriage Notes:

FreeBMD has a record 18767 transcribed by Jane Brown for marriage of Philip Groves in Mar 1871 in Lambeth District 1d 479 (1852-1930) 361 Brixton Road, London, SW9 7DA, Tel +44 (0)207 926 9420, Registration and Census District (1852 - 1946) 1d, cheques payable to London Borough of Lambeth, but this is too early to be the correct record since he would have been only 7 years old.

Estimate of year of marriage is based on year of birth of eldest child.

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Sources


1 Windsor District, Counties of Berks and Surrey, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth on 12 May 1887 of Amy Agnes GROVES (Arthur J Barker, Deputy Superintendent Registrar). Repository: Don's Safe Deposit Box, Bank of America, 2nd Street Branch, Long Beach, CA 90804. Surety: 3

2 British Crown 1982, 1881 Census-As Enumerated, County: Berkshire Page: 04097 (Microfiche Edition of the Indexes 1990 by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). Surety: 3

3 Registration District Cookham, Birth in the Sub-district of Bray in the County of Berks, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for PHILIP GROVES (General Register Office, England, 24 July 1996, application number B006128). Surety: 3

4 Warth, Grace Baden, Letter from Grace Baden Warth to Don Appleby dated 1 Sep 2001 (not published). Surety: 0

5 British Crown, 1881 Census-Surname Index, County: Berkshire (Church of Latter-Day Saints, 1990), 1881 Census-Surname Index, County: Berkshire. Surety: 3

6 British Crown copyright 1982., 1881 Census-As Enumerated, County: Essex - Colchester St James, 1792 59 8 Page 090691 (Microfiche edition of the indexes, copyright 1990 by Corporation of the President of the Chuch of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.) Surety: 3

7 Philip /Groves/, 1901 British census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 13 / 1168; Public Record Office. ID: 658, RG 13 / 1168. Repository: Public Record Office, London, England, United Kingdom. Surety: 3

8 St. George's Church of the Protestant Parish of Montreal, True and faithful copy of an original entry in the Register of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials. Repository: Don's Safe Deposit Box, Bank of America, 2nd Street Branch, Long Beach, CA 90804. Surety: 3

9 Windsor District, Counties of Berks and Surrey, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth on 12 May 1887 of Amy Agnes GROVES (Arthur J Barker, Deputy Superintendent Registrar), Birth certificate of daughter, Amy. Repository: Don's Safe Deposit Box, Bank of America, 2nd Street Branch, Long Beach, CA 90804. Surety: 3

10 Philip /Groves/, 1891 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 12/1011; Public Record Office. ID: 635. Surety: 3

11 British Crown, Census Data, 1881 census-as enumerated, County: Berkshire Page: 04219 (Church of Latter-Day Saints 1990 Microfiche Edition of the Indexes). Surety: 3

12 Registration District Windsor, Birth in the Sub-district of Windsor in the County of Berks, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for AGNES LOUISA SHORT (General Register Office, England, Application Number B006128). Surety: 3

13 George William /Short/ household, 1871 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K., R.G. 10 1300; British National Archives. ID: 674, RG 10 1300. Surety: 3

14 Philip /Groves/, 1891 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 12/1011; Public Record Office. ID: 635, RG 12 / 1011 folio 136. Surety: 3

Explanation of Surety Levels

Compiled by Don Evan Appleby from the sources noted.
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