Thomas Henry Groves-[2561] (1794-1857)

Elizabeth (Unknown)-[2562] (1799-)

Matthew Matthias Groves-[2663] (Abt 1832-)

Mary Ann Rock-[1242] (1827-)

Philip Groves-[6] (1864-After 1912)

 

Family Links Spouses/Children: Agnes Louisa Short-[7] Living Amy Agnes Groves-[987]+ Mathew Groves-[3628] Alice Groves-[2936] Ethel Groves-[2937] Grace Dorothy Groves-[1067]+ Cyril Eric Groves-[2938] Philip Groves-[6] 1 Born: 5 Nov 1864, Water Oakley, Bray, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 3 Marriage: Agnes Louisa Short-[7] before 1887 Died: After 1912 4   General Notes: JR's records show the name as Phillip Matthew GROVES and mine Philip Arthur GROVES. The source for Philip Arthur GROVES is Grama's birth certificate so I used that until I received a birth certificate showing just Philip Groves.. ------- The 1881 census lists a Phillip GROVES, age 16, son of Mathew GROVES. ------- "Incidentally, Philip Groves, who you have listed as from Sloright, Bucks, England, was, I am sure from Slough, which is near Windsor. I have never heard of a place called Sloright!" From Letter dated 18 Dec 1995 from Peter Talbot-Ashby. -------   Birth Notes: Name is spelled Philip on his birth certificate. No middle name is shown.   Death Notes: One source indicated Philip Groves hung himself. Estimate of year is based on residence in 1911 from marriage certificate of daughter Amy.   Noted events in his life were: 1. Census, 1881, Clewer, Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 5 6 As Phillip GROVES, age 16, unmarried male, occupation was errand boy, born in Bray, Berkshire, son as related to Mathew GROVES, head of household. 2. Occupation: Errand Boy, 1881, Clewer, Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 3. Occupation: a gardener for his own account, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 7 4. Residence, 28 Oct 1911, Slough, Buckinghamshire, England, United Kingdom. 8 Marriage certificate for Harry APPLEBY and Amy Agnes GROVES shows Phillip Groves of Slough, Bucks, England. 5. Residence: 10. Grove Place, New Windsor, Berks., England, May 1887, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 9 10 6. Residence: 10 Clarence Cr+, 1881, Clewer, Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 7. Residence: at the time of the 1901 census at No. 1 Love Lane, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 7 Philip married Agnes Louisa Short-[7] [MRIN: 4], daughter of George William Short-[1234] and Louisa Maria Gardiner-[1235], before 1887. (Agnes Louisa Short-[7] was born on 1 Sep 1865 in Spital Road, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 11 12 13.)   Noted events in their marriage were: 1. Residence: at the fime of the 1901 census, 1891, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 14 2. Census, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 7 3. Census, 1891, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 10   Marriage Notes: FreeBMD has a record 18767 transcribed by Jane Brown for marriage of Philip Groves in Mar 1871 in Lambeth District 1d 479 (1852-1930) 361 Brixton Road, London, SW9 7DA, Tel +44 (0)207 926 9420, Registration and Census District (1852 - 1946) 1d, cheques payable to London Borough of Lambeth, but this is too early to be the correct record since he would have been only 7 years old. Estimate of year of marriage is based on year of birth of eldest child.

1 Windsor District, Counties of Berks and Surrey, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth on 12 May 1887 of Amy Agnes GROVES (Arthur J Barker, Deputy Superintendent Registrar). Repository: Don's Safe Deposit Box, Bank of America, 2nd Street Branch, Long Beach, CA 90804. Surety: 3

2 British Crown 1982, 1881 Census-As Enumerated, County: Berkshire Page: 04097 (Microfiche Edition of the Indexes 1990 by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). Surety: 3

3 Registration District Cookham, Birth in the Sub-district of Bray in the County of Berks, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for PHILIP GROVES (General Register Office, England, 24 July 1996, application number B006128). Surety: 3

4 Warth, Grace Baden, Letter from Grace Baden Warth to Don Appleby dated 1 Sep 2001 (not published). Surety: 0

5 British Crown, 1881 Census-Surname Index, County: Berkshire (Church of Latter-Day Saints, 1990), 1881 Census-Surname Index, County: Berkshire. Surety: 3

6 British Crown copyright 1982., 1881 Census-As Enumerated, County: Essex - Colchester St James, 1792 59 8 Page 090691 (Microfiche edition of the indexes, copyright 1990 by Corporation of the President of the Chuch of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.) Surety: 3

7 Philip /Groves/, 1901 British census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 13 / 1168; Public Record Office. ID: 658, RG 13 / 1168. Repository: Public Record Office, London, England, United Kingdom. Surety: 3

8 St. George's Church of the Protestant Parish of Montreal, True and faithful copy of an original entry in the Register of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials. Repository: Don's Safe Deposit Box, Bank of America, 2nd Street Branch, Long Beach, CA 90804. Surety: 3

9 Windsor District, Counties of Berks and Surrey, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth on 12 May 1887 of Amy Agnes GROVES (Arthur J Barker, Deputy Superintendent Registrar), Birth certificate of daughter, Amy. Repository: Don's Safe Deposit Box, Bank of America, 2nd Street Branch, Long Beach, CA 90804. Surety: 3

10 Philip /Groves/, 1891 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 12/1011; Public Record Office. ID: 635. Surety: 3

11 British Crown, Census Data, 1881 census-as enumerated, County: Berkshire Page: 04219 (Church of Latter-Day Saints 1990 Microfiche Edition of the Indexes). Surety: 3

12 Registration District Windsor, Birth in the Sub-district of Windsor in the County of Berks, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for AGNES LOUISA SHORT (General Register Office, England, Application Number B006128). Surety: 3

13 George William /Short/ household, 1871 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K., R.G. 10 1300; British National Archives. ID: 674, RG 10 1300. Surety: 3

14 Philip /Groves/, 1891 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 12/1011; Public Record Office. ID: 635, RG 12 / 1011 folio 136. Surety: 3

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