George William Short-[1234]
(Abt 1842-)
Louisa Maria Gardiner-[1235]
(1843-)

Agnes Louisa Short-[7]
(1865-)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Philip Groves-[6]

Agnes Louisa Short-[7] 1

  • Born: 1 Sep 1865, Spital Road, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 3 4
  • Marriage: Philip Groves-[6] before 1887
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bullet  General Notes:


JR's records show name as Amy Agnes Louisa SHORT, but Grama's birth certificate (of Amy Agnes GROVES) shows name of mother as Agnes Louisa Amy SHORT, so I use that name.
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I don't know where the Place came from for Agnes' birth.

bullet  Birth Notes:

Name is Agnes Louisa on her birth certificate.

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bullet  Noted events in her life were:

1. Census, 1881, Clewer, Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 2 1881 census shows Agnes L. SHORT, age 15, scholar, unmarried female, daughter of George W. SHORT 39 year old married male gardener who was born in Windsor and Louisa M. Short 38 year old married female born in Clewer, all residing at 5 Winkfield Place, Clewer, Berkshire, England with their six children.

2. Census, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 5

3. Census, 2 Apr 1871, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 4

4. Occupation: a General Servant Domestic, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 5

5. Residence: at the time of the 1901 census she was a servant at 59 St Leonard's Road, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 5

6. Residence: at 1 Baylis Place, 2 Apr 1871, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 4


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Agnes married Philip Groves-[6] [MRIN: 4], son of Matthew Matthias Groves-[2663] and Mary Ann Rock-[1242], before 1887. (Philip Groves-[6] was born on 5 Nov 1864 in Water Oakley, Bray, Berkshire, England, U.K. 6 7 and died after 1912 8.)

bullet  Noted events in their marriage were:

1. Residence: at the fime of the 1901 census, 1891, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 9

2. Census, 1901, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 10

3. Census, 1891, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K. 11


bullet  Marriage Notes:

FreeBMD has a record 18767 transcribed by Jane Brown for marriage of Philip Groves in Mar 1871 in Lambeth District 1d 479 (1852-1930) 361 Brixton Road, London, SW9 7DA, Tel +44 (0)207 926 9420, Registration and Census District (1852 - 1946) 1d, cheques payable to London Borough of Lambeth, but this is too early to be the correct record since he would have been only 7 years old.

Estimate of year of marriage is based on year of birth of eldest child.

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Sources


1 Windsor District, Counties of Berks and Surrey, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth on 12 May 1887 of Amy Agnes GROVES (Arthur J Barker, Deputy Superintendent Registrar). Repository: Don's Safe Deposit Box, Bank of America, 2nd Street Branch, Long Beach, CA 90804. Surety: 3

2 British Crown, Census Data, 1881 census-as enumerated, County: Berkshire Page: 04219 (Church of Latter-Day Saints 1990 Microfiche Edition of the Indexes). Surety: 3

3 Registration District Windsor, Birth in the Sub-district of Windsor in the County of Berks, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for AGNES LOUISA SHORT (General Register Office, England, Application Number B006128). Surety: 3

4 George William /Short/ household, 1871 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K., R.G. 10 1300; British National Archives. ID: 674, RG 10 1300. Surety: 3

5 John P /Hollis/, 1901 British Census, 59 St. Leonards Road, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, U.K., Sheet 135 page 15, family 108; British Crown RG13, pc 1168, folio 135, pg 15, family 108. ID: 567, RG13 1168 135 15 108 59 St Leonards Rd. Surety: 3

6 British Crown 1982, 1881 Census-As Enumerated, County: Berkshire Page: 04097 (Microfiche Edition of the Indexes 1990 by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). Surety: 3

7 Registration District Cookham, Birth in the Sub-district of Bray in the County of Berks, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for PHILIP GROVES (General Register Office, England, 24 July 1996, application number B006128). Surety: 3

8 Warth, Grace Baden, Letter from Grace Baden Warth to Don Appleby dated 1 Sep 2001 (not published). Surety: 0

9 Philip /Groves/, 1891 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 12/1011; Public Record Office. ID: 635, RG 12 / 1011 folio 136. Surety: 3

10 Philip /Groves/, 1901 British census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 13 / 1168; Public Record Office. ID: 658, RG 13 / 1168. Repository: Public Record Office, London, England, United Kingdom. Surety: 3

11 Philip /Groves/, 1891 British Census, New Windsor, Berkshire, England, RG 12/1011; Public Record Office. ID: 635. Surety: 3

Explanation of Surety Levels

Compiled by Don Evan Appleby from the sources noted.
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